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Phoenix Rising:
Over the last few years you have given teachings about the
practice of sacred sex. What is the purpose of sacred sex?
Samuel:
In a sense, there are two purposes for sacred sex.
One of them is older, a more natural, physical answer, and
that is that sacred sex is, in miniature, everything that
is needed for a manifestation ritual. Think about it: it requires
a common vision; it requires both feminine and masculine action
to bring about the desired product; it involves moving outside
of oneself in order to literally and figuratively move inside
of oneself; and the union produces a bond that is, at least
for that time, as powerful as any compact. So it is a remarkable
tool that uses the physical, the mental and the spiritual
essences of those taking part in order to bring about a focused
and powerful result. It is manifestation in miniature, and
it creates strong physical bonds between those who are taking
part.
Miniature in relation to what?
What you are seeking to create. In sex,
you are seeking to create the orgasmic response, but in manifestation
as a whole, the equivalent of that orgasmic response is the
common vision that brings about your manifestation in the
world, everything from regular parking places to world peace
and the completion of Sacred Status. Its a small, short-termsometimes
way too quick!version of that larger process. And you
know I say way too quick version, but the amount
of time a large, merged, unified group would spend in a manifestation
working is probably about the same as what two would spend
in a sacred sex working.
The second purpose is that, in the same
way that sex is an act of moving outside of oneself in order
to gain somethingand thats important, because
youre not moving outside of yourself to give something
that has no strings attached; theres a very definite
carrot in theresacred sex provides a means for an individual
or a pair to move into a creator role. That role is very necessary,
not only with the work thats being done now, but generally
in a Guardians life in which there is a committed effort
to take part in world-changing, Grid-filling activity.
So sacred sex and being a Guardian are both
acts of creation.
Yes, particularly now. For instance, in
the toning changes I introduced at the recent retreat, the
mens circle is acting out sexual activity. Now, its
not being done physically or even consciously, but energetically
speaking, the mens circle is now taking a very focused
and specific movement toward creation. Instead of supporting
the creative work of the feminine circle, they are establishing
creation energy that will be amplified through that creative
work.
What is toning for?
Its to help the physical adapt to the
higher frequencies of energy that come in.
And how does it do that?
By channeling small portions of that energy
during the working, letting our body get used to it so it
can adapt to doing that more often and more regularly.
Yes.
It builds spiritual muscles.
Exactly. Now, what has been the work of
masculine energy in that process?
It was providing a stable foundation for the
womens circle to hold that energy.
Yes. Now Im going to give you a different
perspective. The masculine circle has been serving as the
Guardians to the feminine Perfecti. Now, all are Perfecti.
With this changewith masculine energy functioning as
if Fusion had occurred and having a responsibility within
the processthat assumes a completion of the physical
build-up. In other words, masculine energys creative
function is only possible if the physical bodies are strong
enough to maintain that higher energy as Perfecti. Before
I made the changes, masculine and feminine completed each
other to create balance. With the changes, it is an entirely
new creation. However, it requires building the balance first,
because from there it becomes stronger because both parts
are working for the same purpose. These changes in toning
will bring about Guardians who are able to function through
Perfecti energy, whereas Guardians functioning in Guardian
energy is what you had been doing.
So toning in the past was to help you manage
Guardian energy. Toning in the present is about being able
to functionmaybe not comfortably, but at least livablyin
Perfecti energy. Does that mean you must be a Perfecti to
do it? No. It means that there are times that are going to
be coming up in which it would be very, very handy to have
more than a handful of people able to hold Perfecti energy
long enough to get some work done. That was a real problem
at the last two awakenings of Dragon Force in Scotland and
China. Its likely to be much easier this time around
in Brazil.
In China, during the second time we tried to
do the working, I noticed that you distributed some people
in certain balanced ways around the group.
Youre right. What I was trying to
do was put somebody who was strong and focused with their
energy next to somebody who was not.
You would be amazed if you could see thought
during a toning as I do. But you dont have to see thought
to be aware of the restless, unfocused behavior. At a retreatnot
even where someone might be thinking this is the fourth
toning Ive been to this weekat a retreat,
where it should be easier to maintain ones focus, I
am seeing people look around at other toners, shifting around
from foot to foot, even when theyre doing the most important
part of toningputting energy into the Grid and the planet.
I guess its just boring to do that. I look out and see
people straightening their clothes and taking shoes off and
on.
While toning?
Yes.
I keep my eyes closed so Ive never seen
that.
Aye, well theres a good reason to
keep your eyes closed. Its pretty discouraging.
It can be hard to stay focused sometimes. Sometimes
my mind wanders and I find myself thinking about what Im
going to say in the gratitude/healing request circle.
But the difference is, you realize it and
haul your focus back, as opposed to just letting your thoughts
run away so that youre not really doing anything else
but holding your hands out.
Now, to get back to the original topic,
think about this for a moment: You can imagine how, sometimes
during the sexual act as well as during toning, one might
be distracted and start staring at the cracks in the ceiling,
orin either situationone might just start doing
the rote Okay, first I do this and then I do that, and
hopefully everything will be okay. And then at the end I raise
my hands, just like this! because sex and toning have
their own unique but very similar functions and results. And
sacred sex and focused toning are very much alike, especially
with this most recent change I put into it.
A good relationship recognizes strengths
and weaknesses. Ideally one persons strengths cover
the others weaknesses, and in that case two make oneand
thats good and thats strong and thats needed.
But in sacred sex and in the current toning, the masculine
circle, which had been functioning as sort of a Temple Guard
in the process, has now become an equal partner in, and in
some ways the leader of, the process. In the creation sense,
the equivalent would be All That Is.
Now, I dont really expect the group
to be fully comfortable with that change for a little while.
As it is, I already see that I should have given the women
a bit more information, because although its very true
that what they do hasnt changed, they are reacting so
profoundly to the changes in the mens work that the
beginning point of the toning is getting thrown off.
Its just so different, after weve
been doing it the same way for so many years.
Its like taking on a new lover. Its
exciting, its fun, but youve got to figure out
how to move together.
So to sum up, the purpose of sacred sex
is to create a vision, a focus to that vision, and a bond
that is the equivalent of what you are doing in a spiritual
manifestation process.
Would you explain the difference between Guardian
energy and Perfecti energy?
The purpose of a Guardian is to guide and
guard life force to the completion of Sacred Status on this
planet and Plan. The work of the Perfecti is two-fold: to
support the function of Guardianand they do that by
making use of Guardians energyand to provide a
means for Ellic force to function in this world.
Does the energy equal the purpose?
What is the determination of form? Function.
What is the limitation of function? Form. Its the same
energy. We are the same energy, you and I. Its all about
purpose. I know you want to think that the Perfecti is the
next great step toward becoming God. But you already are!
Well, no, I was thinking more that Perfecti
vibrate at, say, 144 megacycles, and Guardians vibrate at
124just a difference in frequency.
Well, that may be true, and is true except
where that Perfecti energy is using Guardian energy to function
in the world. But that only has to do with purpose.
Thank you. I just hadnt been used to seeing
energy in that context. Its very helpful.
Good.
Youve taught on sacred sex in the past,
but that was in 4:3:2. Is there a difference now that we are
in 5:3:2?
In 4:3:2 you call for help. In 5:3:2, you
are the help. In 4:3:2, you access higher energy by way of
particular actions that open a door into energy. In 5:3:2,
you are the energy that 4:3:2 was opening a door to. 5:3:2
is all about unity and vision. 4:3:2 was about strengthening
individuation into activation. Once that activation has come
about there is a next step and that is 5:3:2.
Insofar as sex is concerned, 4:3:2 was about
two people actually shifting into each other, two becoming
one, but that is still separation. 5:3:2 is a very different
function, because you still have the orgasmic point of creation,
but you dont become each other, you dont switch
energy. There is not a better way for me to say this that
I know of: you dont switch energy, you switch identity,
physically and spiritually. Rather than you, David, filling
up with feminine energy and having balance because of that,
which is 4:3:2 sacred sex, its not about balancing your
masculine and feminine energy, its about balancing your
spirit with form. Both on levels far beyond David and Paula.
In sacred sex you are creators.
It seems that what youre saying is that
you need something from the outside in 4:3:2; youre
asking for help, youre reaching out to the other person
and exchanging something. Whereas in 5:3:2 you already are
it. Youre simply moving the energy within yourself.
Right?
Yes. Absolutely right.
Does the energy work in 5:3:2 sacred sex require
an intimate, a romantic bond, a sexual attraction, or can
it be an act between two people who merely happen to be of
different sexes and share a common vision?
Well, they dont have to be of different
sexes.
True.
Although it is not the number-one way to
experience high-frequency sacred sex, it is possible to do
it by yourself. That might be the equivalent of having sex
with somebody with whom you only have an agreement to practice
sacred sex to build energy. In the same way that it can make
the energy you send more intense if you have gone through
a similar situation, because that connection you have with
it makes it more intense, so the connection you have with
somebody you do have a loving bond with propels sacred sex
into a more intense experience.
I was thinking of that intimate version versus
a more ritualized sacred sexthe priest and the priestess
who just come together for ritual.
In 4:3:2, there wouldnt have been
a whole lot of difference in the power created, but in 5:3:2
there is. In 5:3:2, the union covers much more than just the
sexual connection.
So the next thing we should ask is, How do you
create the sacredness in that process? Common expressed intent?
Common vision that is expressed through
common intent. And when I say common I mean between
the two involved.
Agreed-upon.
Yes, a conscious, clearly defined, common
vision, and a conscious, clearly defined common intent. Now,
from that point on you no longer need conscious, spoken intent.
In other words, you dont have to express it every time,
which is one of the advantages of having that bond, because
then you will have already put out that when you come together
you have a certain vision and a certain intent. And from there
on you dont need to ritualistically put that out there.
So the most important thing is that you have two people consciously
choosing to take a creative act and raise it up to its highest
function by their vision and intent. The vision has to do
with creating the energy needed for whatever the byproduct
is determined to be. The intent is whatever that byproduct
is going to be: Were going to come together in
a sacred realization of creation energy, and were going
to direct it to the Grid, or youre going to direct
it to the Palestinian situation, or youre going to direct
it to Darfur. The intent is where it goes
Is it violating the sacredness of it to direct
it towards manifesting stuff, like getting a new
Cadillac or manifesting prosperity?
There is a difference between manifesting
prosperity and manifesting stuff, because you
can be prosperous without stuff; you can have stuff and not
be prosperous.
There is a difference because it has to
do with a broader view. Instead of determining which side
in a conflict needs the energy, and how you want it to work
out, or what meals the people who are starving will getwhich
is the equivalent of saying I would like a new Cadillacyou
are saying we want this situation to heal. You are coming
from a much higher place on the mountain. The energy that
you are putting out is a force of creation, and that trickles
way down to become the things you are wanting to manifest,
but where you are is the working up of the power to manifest,
and you are not calling something outside of you to give you
that power. You are, by this act, pulling it from you.
There are two divisions, and youve spoken
of one of them. You have spoken of the division between energy
and stuff. You can manifest energy for your own prosperity
or you can manifest your own stuff; you can manifest the energy
for planetary healing or you can manifest the specifics of
it. The other is the division between self and other. What
about it? Can you have self-oriented sacred sex, or is that
just manifestation sex?
Again, at the energy level of sacred sex
you are recognizing that, in the same way that you know that
Darfur in Africa has these important needs and healing needs
to be given to that situation, you also recognize that you
want healing of a belief system that has caused you pain and
has caused others pain, and so you are asking particularly
to be able to create a place of forgiveness in your life.
But that is absolutely doing for yourself what is needed.
Its also doing it from a higher level than it would
be in the stuff arena of Im really mad at someone
and I really want to be able to forgive them, because
its never about the other person, its about you.
Does that make sense? You are functioning outside of humanity
and see the correlation between what the world needs and how
your life reflects that. Your human needs and wants are no
longer your primary concern, but are seen as a part of the
greater planetary needs you are using creation energy for.
Youve gotten out of the ego picture into
the bigger picture, in which case you dont have a choice
but to have a wider intent.
Yes. Thats a good way to say it.
Im wondering about people who are very
focused on sex, to the point that it is out of balance or
has become a way of self-definition. Turning that obsession
with sex into a focus for self-definition. Using sacred sex
doesnt change the fact that its out of balance.
Or does it? Is having sacred sex a way a person can turn an
out-of-balance focus or an out-of-balance self-image into
a healthy situation?
Is it a fake-it-till-you-make-it sort of
thing? Yes and nodont you love it when you get
that? It isI think the phrase is apples and orangesto
compare human obsession with conscious spiritual focus. Yes,
it is absolutely possible that people can fool themselves
into thinking that they are functioning in sacred sex when
really what theyre doing is continuing an obsession
that is really not healthy; but, the sacred sex they are having,
even though misused, is still going to have an effect. The
effect is not as strong and useful as it would be if it were
not taking care of an obsessive behavior, though.
Lets say you have fallen and abraded
the skin on your knee, and the scab is itchy, so you keep
scratching it all the time. You know that its all right
to scratch, scratch, scratch because eventually the scab is
going to come off anyway and your scratching will only hasten
the process. So whats wrong with that?
Well, youre not allowing the scab to do
what its supposed to be doing, which is protecting the
healing tissue underneath.
Exactly. You need to let whats underneath
heal it rather than justify your lack of control and discipline
in constantly scratching, because what thats really
going to do is get in the way of the process that needs to
happen. Thats why I often recommend celibacy for people
who are very focused on sex. [In a whining voice] Im
really needing to release that energy, Samuel. Then
stop having sex. Samuel, that cannot be right.
It is.
I guess that would be similar to you giving
a teaching on sacred eating. Even if every time I eat more
than I should I call it a sacred act, it doesnt change
the consequences.
Yes, youre still overeating and your
body is still going to suffer because of it, and its
going to have repercussions in your life.
Why is sacred sex important now? In the past,
youve said that its a way of readapting the blueprint.
Is that still true, and how does it happen?
Anything that puts you in a situation in
which you are, even for small moments, functioning at that
high Perfecti level is a good thing as far as your physical
body is concerned. There is even a certain amount of benefit
from just trying, even if you dont succeed at it. Sacred
sex is like toning now in that wayalthough its
a lot easier to tone in publicbecause you are taking
the most powerful creation force that can be usedeven
just slightly, at this point, in this dimensionand you
are giving it a place to work. And so the next time it will
be a little stronger, and the next time it will be a little
stronger, and on and on to the point that, between toning
and sacred sex (and there are another couple of activities
that we can talk about another time), you are literally creating
a blueprint more than just changing it. That allows that higher
Perfecti energy to work to the point that Guardians who did
not come here to function as Perfecti can and will, and in
a couple of cases already have, not only provide a way to
channel that Perfecti energy through and make use of it, but
can become Shining Energy for this next stage of the work.
Thats why its important.
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