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Phoenix Rising:
We’d like to begin by asking for some clarification about Ellic Force and the Shining Ones. It’s our understanding that Ellic Force is the creation aspect of All That Is, and that it needs group energy to enter the world of form, whereas Shining Ones are those who took on human form in order to seed the earth with aspects of Source, the energy of which is now being activated by the Dragon work. You have said that some of the Guardianship were present at the seedings. Does that mean they were “Shining Ones,” and if so, who are the Shining Ones who were present at the Retreat ritual?
Samuel: When
I refer to the Shining Ones, I am referring to the label that
has been put on a group of beings who visited the planet and
are still referred to in ancient texts, including the Bible.
So saying “Shining Ones” is meant to be a little
memory trigger for you. Of course, it is Ellic energy that
is embodied by a Shining One. The Shining Ones took form for
a purpose (I’m trying to decide how much trouble I want
to get myself into here)—here it comes—in some ways
as Guardians have, although Guardians have taken on form for
the purpose of completing Sacred Status. The ability to take
on and consistently hold—and that’s the key—Shining
energy, or Ellic energy—it doesn’t matter which
word is used there—creates a short-term home for Shining
energy to do something that needs to be done. When there is
a group that contains a much higher than normal number of
individuals who are capable of manifesting that energy—whether
for long or short periods of time—it is more likely that
Shining energy will be drawn to that group, because the energy
produced can be used for a greater purpose.
At Fusion, Ellic force became able to better
express itself on the planet. I have used Shining force at
the rituals on New Year’s Eve and at the Retreat, and
I will be using it in the Yucatán because there are
enough Guardians now who are capable of handling that energy
for a longer amount of time. This means that the Ellic force
capable of entering form—Shining energy—can touch
in and take part. Now, keep in mind that everything that I
have just said is a very poor version of what’s really
going on in the energy. It’s actually a very beautiful
thing, a very powerful thing, but what makes it so beautiful
and so powerful is not that Ellic force or Shining energy
can pop in; it’s that Guardians have evolved, more or
less, so that instead of individuals becoming capable of holding
that energy one hundred percent of the time, Guardians have
become able in certain circumstances—and I wish it was
a whole lot more circumstances—to unite their energies
enough so that there is, throughout the many, one and one
and one capable of holding Shining energy.
Is it Ellic energy? Well, sure, in the big
picture of course it is. Is it Shining energy? With the exception
of it being a channeled force as opposed to a physical statement,
yes.
What do you mean by “channeled force”
versus “physical statement?”
Instead of becoming a body—a physical
force—it uses a body—a channeled force. But the
time will come, at the completion of Sacred Status, when the
ability to create a short-term body will be much, much more
common than it is now.
How would you define “short-term?”
Are you saying an hour, a week, a year?
Any of those. I mean anything short of being
born, living through a lifetime, and dying.
Would that also include creating a short-term
body for a week, and then a year or two later creating what
appears to be that same body for a period of time, if there
was a need? I’m thinking about Shining Ones that in legend
have specific personalities.
You want to remember that there’s a
much different perspective—it’s a much bigger picture—when
you’re not in form. Taking on form is a very difficult
choice because of the stresses, the aches, the questions,
the veil and not remembering, all of those things and more.
It’s a very hard choice, and except at times of transition
it’s not the most economic way to make use of energy
to bring about change. You probably can imagine why that would
be the case—your avatars get killed! But to make long-term
use of a body so that one could come and go, sometimes that
is a very effective way of using energy. So, yes, that’s
possible, but fairly rare and not that likely.
Well, being human, I get into that “grease
spot” thing where I start imagining that I’ll be
sitting there one day, and all of sudden someone will appear
in the chair next to me, and I’ll say, “Ah, that
must be a Shining One.” Isn’t someone going to notice
when Shining Ones appear in and out of form?
Actually, it isn’t likely that people
will notice—they don’t now. It will depend upon
what the purpose is and how aware the world is of the process.
You [Paula] are much, much more sensitive
to energy than most. You are much more ready to recognize,
or if not recognize at least accept, that “Well, I just
had an angel pop in for a while,” or, “It must be
the fairies working with us,” or “I called on the
house fairies to help me find my keys,” and that kind
of thing. However, most of the world, and even most Guardians,
don’t have anywhere near that kind of awareness. The
good news is that you’re putting that into the Grid,
and making it easier for that kind of understanding to take
place.
In the past when you’ve said “take
on form,” I’ve always pictured a physical body,
but now as you’re saying it, I’m becoming aware
that you just mean something that works in this dimension,
not necessarily a flesh-and-bone body.
Correct, but keep in mind that if you’re
going to be working with the ants, you ought to look like
an ant.
You said, “because of the evolution of
the Guardianship.” Is that an evolution that was expected?
No, but it was a possibility. It’s
one of those secondary and very nice—not unexpected,
just undetermined—options.
Now, I should tell you: as good as it is—because
it works—there’s also some problems with it, and
that is that there are those in this Guardianship who justify
their lack of impeccability and the constant, conscious process
of functioning at their very highest energy because they know
that, when push comes to shove, their energy will become united,
and what they don’t have at that moment will be covered
by others. I think of it as somebody who has attention deficit
disorder of spirit and doesn’t keep their focus going.
You would be surprised—I hope—if you looked around
during rituals and saw how many people are looking back at
you. That’s why I say some have a spiritual attention
deficit disorder and will get distracted by something, which
is different than just getting bored with it, but I suppose
that sounds as if I’m giving you a pat on the back or
a justification for “being distracted, checking it out”
as opposed to just being bored.
Were some of the Guardianship present at the
seedings?
I think it would be better to say “There
are those amongst the Guardianship who have access to a function
of Shining energy that was a part of seeding.” Do you
see the difference?
What I understand it to mean is that because
the Guardianship’s in form, there’s only a certain
level that we can access, whereas those who came in for the
seedings were actually higher vibrational beings.
True. Let me try to explain that a little
better. You [Paula] have the ability to create a bridge for
Shining energy because as a Guardian, that possibility was
put into your blueprint for this time of transition, because
you have functioned as a Shining One on this planet for the
second and/or third seedings. You will never have the slightest
awareness of that ever if you’re not toning regularly,
which gives your energy quite a boost and strengthens it to
the point that it can hold a higher energy, and if you had
never heard of Shining energy or had the ability to take part
in a working that used Shining energy, which creates a doorway
of opportunity, more or less. Because of those things, the
doorway you came in with, the doorway of possibility, was
pushed and it opened to the possibility for more. And, of
course, if you had never awakened or activated, none of the
preceding would have been true either. But you are rare that
way. There are not many Guardians—there aren’t many
Guardians, period—but there are not many Guardians who
have that kind of energy possibility, fewer still who have
an awareness of the possibility of Shining energy, and then
much fewer still who believe me when I say “that the
most important thing you can be doing between now and Sacred
Status is toning, because toning allows you [Paula] to re-create
a body—mind you that in this current incarnation that’s
one that can’t eat wheat, and can’t eat gluten,
and can’t eat dairy—that can manage that sort of
energy. Does that make sense? Do you think that will make
everybody want to do more toning?
One would hope.
Ah, and then the world will get in the way
yet again.
When I think about the Shining Ones, I imagine
them as these great shining beings.
When they take form they are.
Right. But when they’re at a ritual . .
.
You’re not going to see them.
But if you could, would they just be a composite
of Shining energy, or would they be individualized?
Remember the form part of it all. That brain
of yours is a huge limitation, because it’s the filter
that limits what you can “get.” There is a lot of
energy in this room right now that you can’t see, because
even if the brain could process it all, the equipment—the
eyes, the ears, the sensory organs—aren’t capable
of picking that energy out. That doesn’t mean it’s
not there, does it? Electricity makes lights appear to be
magic—poof—but you know it’s not so. There’s
a whole lot going on beyond what you see that makes a light
work. Well, that’s also the case with the ritualized
use of elemental and Shining energy. As long as you are living
in form, it’s unlikely that you will ever see Shining
energy. What you might see is the energy signature, and you
might be able to feel the energy, but the energy signature
will be translated differently by each one of you, because
again, each individual’s filters are unique.
This may not be the best example, because
the Form’s system is quite a bit different from the Guardianship’s,
but [to Frank] since the New Year’s ritual, and since
the Retreat, have you noticed anything out of the ordinary
about her?
She seems to have more energy. She’s been
less limited by her lupus than she was before.
Yes, tremendously different, because her
physical body has been in the presence of Shining energy.
Now, let me ask if the two of you [Paula
and David] have had different energy, remembering that with
extremes, both are the same.
We’ve both been pretty tired.
One part of the extreme is resisting the
energy instead of flexing and adapting to it. Fighting and
flexing are ultimately the same. If you’re finding that
since the Retreat—or even for weeks after New Year’s
Eve—that your energy was physically affected—now
I’m not saying emotionally, I’m saying physically—that’s
very likely because you either have a resistance to it, or
you’ve run so much energy through the body you need much
more rest than usual. And, by the way, you don’t want
to give in to that. Give it a month or so to adjust, but if
it’s not adjusted by then, just push beyond it in either
of those cases.
The other end of the spectrum is that your
body has adjusted enough that you find yourself much more
energized, with the result that your mind is much more active
even if your physical body isn’t. Whereas, at one extreme
your mental/emotional/spiritual would not be affected, at
this end of the spectrum it’s the mental/emotional/spiritual
that is giving your physical body energy. So, for example,
you might find yourself doing crosswords all of the time.
You might find yourself thinking more quickly or understanding
more. Both of those scenarios are how Shining energy affects
highly functioning Guardians. In the world as a whole—as
you probably suspected—Shining energy creates my friend,
chaos.
Would that kind of mental/emotional/spiritual
energy also create frustration at slower-moving thought processes?
For example, getting frustrated at having to read six or eight
pages of something to find the one nugget of information I
was needing. I mean frustrated because I’m mentally able
to move faster than the thing I’m involved with will
allow.
Frustration is an indulgence. It’s
an indulgence because you get frustrated rather than angry,
and anger is a lot more honest.
Frustration is the polite version of anger.
“I’m not angry, I’m just frustrated.”
Yes, I like that. It’s polite anger.
And what you really are is angry.
What you might be referring to in your question
is that chemical process of your brain that causes you to
be one step ahead in your mind, which makes it feel as if
your body is one step behind, and therefore you’re always
stressed, always pushing to catch up. On top of that, you
have a highly functioning Guardian’s push to do more,
and you’ve got your human self pushing as well. So between
all of those there is a lot of reason to be frustrated.
I think I am going to add an activity to
the next Guardianship Program in which you have to take on
a project that isn’t going to pay off right away. I want
you to invest yourself in something that isn’t going
to give you immediate results, something that you must plan
out, maybe without ever seeing any results, because you need
to control your brain so that it doesn’t require obvious
results to act on. The reason is that your brain says, “I
know and I am aware of everything that is possible. I know
the reasons, and I know the possibilities, and I know the
outcomes,” and, of course, you don’t at all. If
you can allow your brain to create a little space that says,
Maybe things could be a little different than I thought, then
you’re going to be able to have more opportunity to have
experiences that allow you to start seeing the ways gods do—to
see the much bigger picture rather than the smaller one.
After the ritual working at the Retreat, you
talked about the Shining energy that was used as being an
“overlay,” not an “inlay.” What is the
difference?
When I function through the Form, as I am
doing right now, that is an inlay. My work with the leadership
[through Lea but when she is conscious] is an overlay. I know
that there are a lot of people who don’t work with the
leadership, so that’s not a great example for them, but
those that do will understand that right away.
For Shining energy to use a physical body
by affecting its functions in such a way that the Shining
force is doing the thinking, doing the talking, doing the
moving, that’s inlay. And that’s rarer than rare.
But to overlay, which is the kind of thing
that happens in a private session when you’re trying
to remember something so I take your hand and suddenly you
remember; or generally when you are looking within for an
answer about what to do—”What is the highest good
for this situation?”—it’s as though the mist
clears, and you know that you’re getting help, that’s
an overlay.
You talked at one time about “stepping
aside,” and it’s what I feel like sometimes when
I’m writing something. I don’t know where it comes
from, but it’s not me.
Precisely so. Yes.
But it’s pretty good, so I go with it.
But I don’t feel any different when I’m doing it,
it’s just . . .
Yes you do.
. . . well, yes, I do, but I know something
else is going on besides me.
Sure. Does that mean that, when you are
writing, Shining energy is overshadowing or overlaying you?
Not necessarily, but I can assure you that it is an energy
that is you, in one way or another, and one of those ways
could well be your ability to access your function as Shining
energy at sometime during the out-breath that right now is
you.
I’ll tell you what picture I’m
getting to explain this right now. There is a film called
“Ghost”?
With Patrick Swayze.
And in this film there is a time in which
there is a séance going on, and a ghost slips into
the body of the medium, and then the medium is finished and
it slips back out. That’s an overlay.
The meeting with Sunny at the Retreat raised
some interesting questions about elemental energy.
I bet it did.
What is the nature of the relationship between
the Guardianship and the elemental world?
At the Retreat, I wanted you to be able
to access a higher function of yourself—a much higher
function of yourself—and to be able to make that connection,
because it’s a very easy one. Sunny isn’t actually
an elemental, because elementals are involved with the various
functions of energy in form, and have a specific job to guide
and guard creation, such as fairies and the energies that
work with water. However, a joy guide is a doorway, and elemental
energy is not, at least for you, anyway. A joy guide is a
doorway to a usually unused part of your personality’s
energy.
If you were to ask at a gathering of the
Phoenix family—those that you’ve come to know and
love and work with and care about—ninety-five percent
would say they would love to laugh more, feel free insofar
as taking things lightly, not being so ground into the routine,
being more able to be playful and joyful. And the thing is,
that’s a really vital part of your spiritual function.
It’s so easy to use you when you are en-lightened. So
for most in this world as a whole, and even amongst Guardianship,
there is a ready-and-waiting spiritual doorway (that your
light heart would open) that gets ignored and unused. And
this is an important year, a year that’s going to require
a lot of decisions, a lot of opportunity, in different ways,
and having a greater . . . having all of you consciously
working to be happier, to laugh more, to take things less
seriously, would go a long way to help you in the good things,
the hard things, anything that this world is going to be shooting
your way this year.
My perspective is that people do laugh a lot
at Phoenix.
I work really hard to make that happen.
But if you were in a love/healing circle at toning, and said,
“I just want to be able to laugh more, to feel lighter,”
you would have a room full of people saying “ditto.”
The next question: Are there elementals that
work with humans? I have heard, for instance, that there’s
an elemental for the physical body that helps the human take
care of the body.
t’s not doing a very good job.
I know, I think I need to fire mine.
Higher frequencies activate lower frequencies.
Your ability to connect into and make use of that which is
outside of the brain, your ability to recognize and make use
of that energy—even if it’s an act of faith doing
it—draws that kind of energy to you. The higher a frequency
you are able to work at, the more you’re going to be
able to work with elemental energy. Think for a moment of
weather fairies. Weather fairies are a made-up thing, but
one that works with you, in a large part thanks to Katie Joyce’s
work to create weather fairy workings. It’s the group’s
consciousness that creates weather fairies, as opposed to
their being elemental workers specifically called weather
fairies. (Good work, Katie!)
The higher a frequency you can work at the
more aware you become of those energies outside of you that
have a purpose, a function, and you become capable of working
with them. Not for them, with them. Not in charge of them,
with them. The more you do to work at your highest frequency
and work with—by faith or knowledge—the other kingdoms,
the more you are going to be able to work with elemental energy
and make use of it to push your own energy higher—a closed
loop kind of thing. You do it, you get more, you do it again.
As you do that, and function at even higher frequencies, you
begin connecting into those energies that are elemental energy,
but which religious people call angels, guardian angels, or
which I call joy guides. Again, that same sort of circuit
happens. You’re functioning at a higher level, you’re
dealing with higher energy frequencies, and you begin connecting
in to your “large-P” personality. You begin connecting
into it while you are still functioning in form, until eventually
you begin connecting into your Ellic self. So working with
the  elementals
is a doorway. It’s a good doorway.
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